![]() 07/02/2018 at 19:07 • Filed to: None | ![]() | ![]() |
Cars have gotten so fast in the past couple years that the slowest accelerating car in this picture is probably the GT500. Assuming it is a 2013 that means 0-60 in 3.5 seconds. Or if it was a 2012 it would be 0-60 in 4 seconds. We live in a world were 4 seconds is perceived to be slow to sixty.
![]() 07/02/2018 at 19:14 |
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well...not “slow” but not bleeding edge like it used to be. Though I do think its funny that “a little slow” for regular cars these days is around 7 seconds. 7 seconds to 60 is still pretty good! maybe Im just used to twice that.
![]() 07/02/2018 at 19:14 |
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4 seconds is definitely not considered slow to 60, unless you’re talking about exotic supercars.
![]() 07/02/2018 at 19:16 |
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I’m really sick of hearing auto journos complaining that 250hp family cars and 160hp economy cars are “slow”.
![]() 07/02/2018 at 19:16 |
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Slow might be an overstatement but it is certainly starting to feel more and more like that. But yes like you my GX is a lumbering sauropod compared to most modern vehicles.
![]() 07/02/2018 at 19:18 |
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Think about it, your average run of the mill muscle car in the magazines can do that nowadays with paddle shifters. It might not be “slow” but it becoming surprisingly common
![]() 07/02/2018 at 19:19 |
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I agree. Unless you have a hunk of junk most cars are pretty quick anymore.
![]() 07/02/2018 at 19:21 |
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Its funny because when I get in the GX its a rocket to me. I guess its all about relative comparisons.
I don’t know if I showed you this but I thought you would enjoy it. I only tow it to and from the marina like this as its about 500 lbs over the limit as is. Still pulls pretty strong even at 6400 feet.
![]() 07/02/2018 at 19:25 |
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Do you have 22's on your trailer?
![]() 07/02/2018 at 19:26 |
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Every new car is a muscle car. Every new car is a sports car. Every new car is a luxury car. People can’t afford new cars anymore. :(
![]() 07/02/2018 at 19:27 |
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Not by choice. We bought it this way
![]() 07/02/2018 at 19:28 |
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They are getting too high in price. A new Mustang GT should not be pushing 50k
![]() 07/02/2018 at 19:28 |
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nice rimzzzzzz
![]() 07/02/2018 at 19:35 |
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What year is yours again? Mine is an 04 and I think it is only rated for 5000lbs. I thought the 05 and newer were rated for 6500lbs.
Also, I quite like the boat.
![]() 07/02/2018 at 19:35 |
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Not even t wenty years ago a 0-60 of under ten was considered really damn quick.
![]() 07/02/2018 at 19:38 |
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08. Is a 7000 lb loaded boat
![]() 07/02/2018 at 19:46 |
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Well damn. Suddenly I feel more confident about towing our boat.
![]() 07/02/2018 at 21:47 |
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Be careful.
If you suggest an alternative... like an affordable mid-engined car with a good amount, but not outlandish power levels...
The nay-sayers and ad-hominem attackers will come after you.
![]() 07/02/2018 at 21:52 |
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The inflation argument comes in and says that isn’t out of line compared to the time value of money from previous generations... and that a Mustang GT from 1985, 1995, 2005, and 2015 are on a near linear scale.
but what never seems to get baked into that calculation, is that wages have been flat and stagnant for decades... and wages have not kept up with inflation, which is why the average new car in 2017, wasn’t $ 50K, it was just $ 33,570, and is on a shallower growth rate than inflation.
![]() 07/02/2018 at 21:54 |
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I think 0-60 is no longer a good metric for performance, it only explains how good the driver/ conditions/ stability control is. A more informative test would be 20-100.
![]() 07/02/2018 at 23:39 |
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What is the cheapest option for that Alfa Romeo? 60k entry level? * Shudders
![]() 07/02/2018 at 23:41 |
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What’s interesting is an old Motortrend article circa 2012 mentioned that a GT500 cost the equivalent of roughly 30k in 2012 figures.
![]() 07/02/2018 at 23:41 |
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That would be an interesting figure
![]() 07/03/2018 at 03:11 |
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I just shake my head when I read that bullshit. Or when a car that does 0-60 in 10 seconds is said to be ‘dangerously slow’.
It’s like an arms race in an irrelevant (to the general population) category. Assuming their car can go 0-60 in 6 seconds , h ow often is your average consumer going to accelerate from 0 to 60 in less than 10 seconds? Or in less than 8? Very rarely, if ever. So discussing acceleration beyond a certain point in the base version of family cars is totally irrelevant . Now if we’re talking about optional engine choices it becomes a totally different story.
Although I’m not a VW fan, I’m going to use the Dutch VW Golf lineup as an example of how it should be for a volume car. Imho. With the different gasoline engine options you can go from 0- 100 kmh (62 mph) in: 11.9 (base that no one buys), 9.9, 9.1, 8.3, 6.2 (GTI), 5.1 (R). For the diesel options it’s 10.2, 8.6 and 7.5. There’s enough for everyone. With every increment you increase performance and cost but you lose economy. The base one will do just fine in normal traffic, if you want more you can pick a faster version (at the expense of both cost and economy).
![]() 07/03/2018 at 10:30 |
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If you told someone in the 90's that you one day could buy a diesel with a 7.5 0-100kmh time they would probably laugh in your face.
![]() 07/03/2018 at 10:48 |
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Well, the 1999 BMW E46 330d manual did it in 7.8. But no, I don’t think they would have expected how commonplace it would become. Nowadays, there are a number of diesels that do it in <5 seconds. Audi A6/A8/Q7, Bentley Bentayga, BMW 3/3 Touring/3 GT/ 4/4 GC / 5 / 5 Touring/ 7/ X3/ X4, Mercedes CLS and Porsche Panamera.
At the Wales Oppo meet I drove a 70 HP NA diesel Citroën BX. 0-100 kmh in 16.3 seconds, when it was fresh. Which it certainly wasn’t any more; it had a very effective anti-tailgating system . Anyway, I could keep up with most and could even marginally outrun a NA MX5/ Miata with it. Mostly due to my own insanity, but still. I think I had more fun there in that slow car than I could ever have in a 7 seconds 0-60 mph modern family car.
![]() 07/07/2018 at 08:11 |
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Any car with a power to weight ratio of over 100 hp/tonne is pretty fast.
Nearly every new car on sale has such a figure nowadays.